Speak in Tongues

For those who want together to learn more about the Spiritual gift of speaking in tongues, and how to use it effectively.


Thursday, April 12, 2007

Speak in Tongues Blog moved to WordPress

I have moved this blog from Blogger to WordPress to allow for extra features and better control of its future.

All of the posts are there, but the URL of the blog has changed to www.speak-in-tongues.com/wordpress/.

If you have put this blog into your favourites or have linked it from a website, would you please change the link to this new address.

I will leave the old Blogger blog up for a while, but all new posts will be on the new one.

Tuesday, April 10, 2007

Thursday, April 05, 2007

Tongues five years on

I've been neglecting this blog. This was brought to my attention in two ways. First, it keeps coming up in Google Analytics as having a constant stream of visitors, so someone must be interested. Second, and more importantly, a prayer ministry colleague recently referred to an article I wrote years ago about Tongues - making it happen, on the Healing Prayer Ministries Network website. He said it was the best thing on the subject that he had seen and wanted to put it on his own site. I thought I'd better go and see what I said!

While it's hardly the definitive exposition on speaking in tongues, I find that I still stand by what I said. However, I have learned much since that time and clearly a new overview of the whole glossolalia phenomenon is overdue.

I often see Google ads relating to tongues on my websites, and when I check them out the greatest number seem to be from people or groups who disapprove, sometimes quite vehemently, and sometimes even try to use their arguments to spread suspicion about other groups who have little or no connection with the topic at all. Obviously, speaking in tongues is still a topic that divides the church, at least on the Internet. This is particularly significant as I write this, on the day that Pilate confronted Jesus with his famous comment, "Truth! What is truth?"

I don't know whether I will be able to shed any light on the subject, but I plan to try my best, and I am sure the Holy Spirit will keep me on track, or correct me when I lose it.

My own background is that of growing up in a church that effectively taught against anything to do with the Holy Spirit, including tongues - not so much out of doctrinal conviction, but more out of fear of intellectual weakness (read pride of mind), or fear of what might happen if they allowed God to do whatever he wanted. I never found their arguments convincing. As one of the members once exclaimed in frustration at a leaders meeting, "You talk all the time about living a holy life, but you never tell us how to do it!"

Since that time I have learned and experienced a great deal that contradicts that early teaching. I now know that the main reason people are reluctant to allow their experience to shape their theology is lack of trust in Jesus when he says that he will send the Spirit, who will lead them into all truth. They think they have to work it all out first with their minds before they can risk trying something out, and since most people are not capable of doing a thorough job of this (though they might think they are), they instead rely on the secondhand 'knowledge' of authorities other than Jesus. How often have these authorites also done exactly the same thing?

Instead, I have pursued everything that Jesus promised his followers, and tested each gift out for its validity and effectiveness, while at the same time seeking out the Biblical basis for each experience. Jesus has not let me down, and Diana and I have been able to move in an effectiveness of ministry I could once only have dreamed about.

Some warned us about being deceived by demons (sometimes the same people who say there are no demons!) Instead, we have found that demons are never the primary issue, but instead can be made, unwillingly of course, to serve the purposes of God. The authority Jesus gives to a believer is far greater than that of any demon, if only they would take hold of it.

Others say tongues speaking is irrational. I've often thought that the Western version of rationality was highly overrated anyway. But seriously, isn't that the point of tongues - to offend the mind and allow the human spirit to act without its interference?

I will write more on these things, but let me conclude for now by saying the journey I have been on with Jesus is one I wouldn't have missed for all the intellectual prizes in history. As a result of trusting him in this even my mind works better, and is more satisfied with the wonders that I have discovered about the true nature of God's creation.







Thursday, March 08, 2007

Testing BlogJet

I have installed an interesting application - BlogJet. It's a cool Windows client for my blog tool (as well as for other tools). Get your copy here: http://blogjet.com.


It allows you to edit posts for your blogs while you are offline and publish them later.


"Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid; humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond imagination." -- Albert Einstein

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Check out the posts in my blogs

If you are reading this post you would probably also be interested in posts in some of my blogs:

a reasonable mystic



Listening 2 God

Mal's Meanderings

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Permitting speaking in tongues.

The middle-road approach to the use or non-use of the gift of tongues, as seen in Peter Wagner's otherwise very helpful book How to Have a Healing Ministry Without Making Your Church Sick. Wagner does not have a problem with the reality or usefulness of the gift of tongues, But even so, in his 120 Fellowship adult Sunday School class he "dealt with public tongues by categorically forbidding their use." (p28) The reason he gives is "My desire for unity in the Body supersedes my desire to see all the gifts manifested." (p29) I wonder if this is still the approach Peter takes? It seems a pity that, especially in a training class, people aren't given the opportunity to work out why their behaviour (not the gift) might be divisive, and learn to live with what is a great blessing of God!

To use Wagner's own terminology, a church, with or without a healing ministry, which forbids the use of tongues, is already somewhat sick!

Instead of dealing with the root of the issue - people's sinful reactions to the unknown or unfamiliar - those who follow this median approach, and even more so those who deny the gift completely, cut people off from one of the important resources that God has provided to help them live and grow. Then we wonder why so many Christians are lukewarm in their relationship to Jesus! This action of the leaders is itself often based on fear, either of the gift, or of the giver, or of the effect its use might have. Fear is hardly a godly response from which to make a decision, now is it a very good qualification for leadership.

Jack Hayford's book, The Beauty Of Spiritual Language, is a delight with it's emphasis on the glorious nature of this God given way for a believer to participate directly in the worship of heaven around the throne of the Lamb. Speaking in tongues is a small foretaste of things to come in the next age!

Sunday, September 17, 2006

Allowing Speaking in Tongues

There are a number of common misunderstandings about the gift of speaking in tongues. These result in a certain mistrust of the gift by many church leaders. Because disagreements so easily arise they feel that it is a divisive gift. Consequently they are likely to forbid or severely restrict its use.

I know of one international Bible study organisation which outright forbids anyone in leadership to use this gift. They take the cessationist view that now we have the Bible those gifts are not needed - a thouroughly unbiblical approach. Another wiser international Bible study organisation simply says that leaders are not to promote anything which might be divisive, without specifying what that might be.

C. Peter Wagner, one of the leaders of the charismatic movement, while being afirming of the gift of tongues, still took this very cautious approach when forbidding its use in the 120 Fellowship. He outlines his reasons in this book with the very evocative title How to Have a Healing Ministry Without Making Your Church Sick . Given that it is now 18 years since this book was written, I wonder if he still holds to that position?

A more balanced approach can be seen in Jack Hayford's very helpful book The Beauty Of Spiritual Language. Again, this book is getting quite old, but an update on Jack's thinking is available in this Christianity Today article, which says:

"While Hayford subscribes to Pentecostal doctrine that tongues is a 'sign gift,' indicating the baptism of the Spirit, he doesn't think the point can be conclusively proved one way or the other from Scripture. Instead he emphasizes that tongues is a useful gift—useful to the worshiper in prayer, and thus useful to the kingdom of God, which works through praying believers. 'I have a passion to move every Christian to the free exercise of tongues,' Hayford says, 'not as a proof of spirituality but as a privilege for worship and intercession.'

"He thinks the obstacle to speaking in tongues is less theological than personal—people's fear of the unknown. Here too pastoral leadership is needed, he says, because tongues enables God's people to pray effectively even when they don't know how to pray."

Of course, less reasonable leaders have reacted in fear, sometimes quite irrationaly. I have heard leaders say things which amount to something like: "There are no such things as demons!", or less drastically, "Christians can't get demons!", and then in the next breath they might say, "Tongues are of the devil!" or "If you speak in tongues you will be get a demon!"

My wife Diana and I had to confront this type of thinking in our own church experience before we were married, and God graciously provided us with opportunities to encounter the reality of both demonic and godly tongues, and assure us through this experience that we would always know the difference. This is a story I will tell another time.

Yes, tongues can be divisive. Anything can be divisive! Different ways of administering baptism or communion have caused enormous strife in churches throughout history. Why don't we forbid baptism and communion. In fact one well known denomination, The Salvation Army, which, while not actually forbiding these sacraments, does not encourage their practice. I must say in their favour that unlike many mainstream churches they have retained an acceptance of baptism in the Holy Spirit. But where will we stop - when we have nothing of the blessings and gifts of God left? Who would want to be part of such a church? Not me! Instead of dealing with the root issues we instead cut people off from one of the important resources God has provided to help them live and grow. And we wonder why so many Christians are lukewarm in their relationship to Jesus! This action of the leaders is itself often based on fear, either of the gift or its giver, or the effect its use will have.

Fear is hardly a godly response from which to make a decision. We must move past our fears, our personal preferences, and our distrust of anything different, and engage fully in what Jesus is doing in the world. If you can only accept what is comfortable and understandable then being a follower of Jesus is not for you.

The gift of speaking in tongues, rightly understood and used, is a wonderful gift both for the individual believer and their church fellowship, both for their building up in the faith, their communion with God, and their effectiveness in carrying out the work of Jesus in the world.